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Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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Simon's Realm » Mozilla Vulnerability Timeline — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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Simon's Realm » Mozilla Vulnerability Timeline — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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By: noscope | Mozilla Bug Timeline

noscope | Mozilla Bug Timeline — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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webfroot » Mozilla Vulnerability Timeline — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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By: Blanko » Mozilla shell exploit patch timeline

Blanko » Mozilla shell exploit patch timeline — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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By: Roman's weblog » As the Worm Turns

Roman's weblog » As the Worm Turns — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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By: Wikilab » Mozilla e la sicurezza Open Source

Wikilab » Mozilla e la sicurezza Open Source — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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By: nicholasjon.com » Why does open source work?

nicholasjon.com » Why does open source work? — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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By: » What’s the difference between Mozilla and Microsoft?

» What’s the difference between Mozilla and Microsoft? — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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By: GranneBlog » Mozilla fixes a bug … fast

GranneBlog » Mozilla fixes a bug … fast — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

[…] much belies the argument. Now a blogger named sacarny has created a timeline detailing a vulnerability that was found in Mozilla and the time it took to fix it. It starts on July 7, at 13:46 […]

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Chagël's Personal Website - 三退三入Mozilla Firefox — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000

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By: Karanbir Singh - Thinkability

Karanbir Singh - Thinkability — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 02:59:29 +0000

How long does it take to fix a bug ?
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Mike Stanclift (Marshalus) of Neowin.net — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:59:31 +0000

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By: Biff Bofferson

Biff Bofferson — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:12:21 +0000

Excepting the fact he forgot about two YEARS earlier where they labled this bug WONTFIX…

Guys no one is perfect. It takes bigger people to admit when you screwed up.

All I have seen from you firefox people is flag waving and trumpeting about how great you are. This is a horrible example of open source and you should just let it go. Two years went by and a bug was labled WONTFIX. I don’t find that to be a ringing endorsement for Moz or Open Source Software in general.

This is not something to be happy about. What you should be saying is what went wrong 2 years ago to mark this a WONTFIX bug. The more you distort the truth about this the less credibility you have. Frankly after reading this its spin spin spin. Almost getting like politics.

By: Biff Bofferson

Biff Bofferson — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:30:58 +0000

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167475

By: Keith L. Dick

Keith L. Dick — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:43:07 +0000

FireFox, Mozilla and all the team got my Vote!!!!

I barely ever did use IE, I always used Netscape.

By: blakeross.com

blakeross.com — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:33:42 +0000

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By: Cerel

Cerel — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:32:29 +0000

Biff Bofferson : You want to know why the bug was WONTFIX labeled ? It’s simple, it’s not the work of Mozilla to fix OS bugs. “shell:” is an “external” protocol, this means the browser should not use it, the browser lets the OS handle the external protocol.
2 years ago, MS knew this bug, and this bug should have been patched with XP1. But it seems MS didn’t patched it correctly. That’s why this time Mozilla had to handle the external protocol itself and don’t pass it to the OS.
This security hole only affects Windows XP, neither Linux nor Mac OS are affected.

Oh, and by the way, this security hole affects IE too …
Go to this page with IE shell vulnerability.

Now the true question, is : Does mozilla have to patch OS holes ?

By: xiando

xiando — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:23:08 +0000

I wrote The Kernel Exploit Time-line on the
kernel DDOS bug discovered last month. It shows it took 4 days before a patch was available. The Open Source model is really working out great.

By: Blogcritics

Blogcritics — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:56:39 +0000

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A Welsh View — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:52:38 +0000

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By: Bj�rn

Bj�rn — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:06:14 +0000

I’m no IE lover, but there’s a fundamental thing being missed here, I find.

The question is not how fast Mozilla’s code was fixed; the question is: How fast were all users safe from this issue?

Without a transparent updating system, like (gasp) Windows downloading patches automatically, it doesn’t matter if the issue is fixed. It only matters what version people are using.

By: envision

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Wie ihr sicher mitbekommen habt, hatten wir ein Sicherheitsproblem. Gl�cklicherweise wurde das von der Presse gr��tensteils nicht zum Mozilla-Bashing genutzt. Adam Sacarny hat �brigens den zeitlichen Verlauf des Bugfixings hier dargestellt. Interessant…

By: Mike Sneed

Mike Sneed — Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:50:55 +0000

Totally awesome I must say. Great work from the Mozilla team!

By: Wormeyman

Wormeyman — Sun, 11 Jul 2004 07:42:28 +0000

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By: Nick Coad

Nick Coad — Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:31:40 +0000

In response to Bj�rn, it’s important to remember that most people are using Firefox because they are security minded. They would probably get the latest version quite quickly. However, having said that, you do have a good point. Maybe Firefox should consider some sort of system that will notify the user of new version releases?

By: Adam

Adam — Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:44:23 +0000

The security has been discovered 2 years ago, at 2002, you can check it out from here http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167475 . It turns out that mozilla developers didn’t want to fix it because they thought that it is not their responsibility. The same problem doesn’t exist in IE. Some people falsely claimed that it is the Windows’ own problem, but that also turned out to be false, because IE is not vulnuerable to this problem. Basically what Mozilla was doing is that it lets anybody on the net to run programs in your own computer. Unfortunately even though the problem has been discovered long time ago, mozilla developers refused to fix it and thus we were vulnureable to this problem for so many years. I have been using Firefox for 1.5 years. I hope nobody used this hole before, but once again I believe Mozilla developers prove the myth that open source developers are not as responsible as the ones working full time on a project. People are trying to hide this mess as much as possible, but it would be a disservice to users to do that and will harm the project in the long run. Mozilla should apologize for omitting to fix it, only then I might consider mozilla to be a real competitor to IE once again.

By: flex-mx

flex-mx — Mon, 12 Jul 2004 06:31:26 +0000

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By: C�neyt Yilmaz

C�neyt Yilmaz — Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:18:25 +0000

Thumbs up guys, I’m really impressed Mostly not with the quickness of the fix, but of all the other work regarding publicity, rolling in and non-development stuff! _All_ the Mozilla staff has my respects!

By: Blogcritics

Blogcritics — Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:26:57 +0000

Behind The Bug: Mozilla Patches a Hole
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By: MrTibs

MrTibs — Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:38:55 +0000

First, to all you negative people, quit puking on the Mozilla team! I am thrilled that people are out there putting so much effort into developing open source software especially projects like this. Mozilla is a world class app and the Mozilla team should get the respect they have earned! Secondly, this is one security hole compared to how many on IE? And finally, the bug is fixed, unlike IE. (Is anyone still using IE for online banking?) If you feel the need to criticize, put your code where your mouth is. People, show some respect.

By: cygweb

cygweb — Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:14:36 +0000

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By: AndyB

AndyB — Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:53:09 +0000

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622074,00.asp

“In discussions with representatives of the Mozilla Foundation, they conceded this indeed was a bug and didn’t try to foist the blame on to Microsoft. And that’s because they know what’s usually perfectly obvious: that browsers are supposed to look suspiciously at content and try to protect the user. There’s little to be gained by a defense that it’s Windows fault, not when you wrote the application to tell Windows to run whatever content comes up. ”

By: AndyB

AndyB — Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:53:46 +0000

The 2nd quote should be:

“All Windows is doing in the case of what was just patched in Mozilla is taking an instruction to run a program and running it. If the browser didn’t ask for it, it wouldn’t happen.”

By: Adam Sacarny

Adam Sacarny — Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:58:34 +0000

The writer of that eweek article does not seem to have clue regarding this security hole. For one thing, he thinks that popping up a dialog box to handle the shell exploit would have been a reasonable way of stopping the danger; there is no reason *any* user should want to click on a shell link on an internet web page. Given that shell is so dangerous, the proper way to handle it is to disable it completely a la XP SP 2 and Mozilla.
He changes some Internet Zone registry settings and wonders why Mozilla doesn’t reflect the changes. I’ll tell you why: because the Internet Zone settings are for Internet Explorer. I’d rather Mozilla not listen to those settings (Although I would like to import them)
And then, his cardinal sin: “The parsing and passing off to the Windows shell with Explorer is entirely a browser affair.” NO! It’s entirely a Windows internal affair! shell: is a protocol handler implemented in Windows that Mozilla was not instructed to *ignore*. Internet Explorer behaves the same way, except it pops up a dialog box while Mozilla hands off to the protocol without confirmation!
It seems this writer should have done some more research.

Adam

By: Johan Sandqvist

Johan Sandqvist — Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:26:27 +0000

Nice timeline. But I can’t help noticing that virtually no time (if any at all) was spent on considering the impact this patch would have when distributed. What impact would it have on legitimate use of the shell: handler? What other potential issues could arise? Sure, it’s fancy with a 24h fix, but without knowing if it would cause other problems I don’t feel reassured at all.

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***Dave Does the Blog — Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:06:04 +0000

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By: Randell Jesup

Randell Jesup — Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:53:52 +0000

Note: I’m a (mostly inactive) member of the Mozilla team.

My understanding (not being an expert on this bug) is that while the developers had an idea of what they’d like to do with external protocols, there certainly was no known hole outside of items already blacklisted. I was involved in the bug where people wanted telnet: to be re-enabled (it was in NS 4.x), and one reason it wasn’t was security.

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By: mcsmurf

mcsmurf — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:29:44 +0000

Hi,
you put some links to bonsai querys, which now don’t work anymore. I made some replacement querys, which are permanent (since this blog post wont disappear itself :):

Patch checked in to Mozilla development branch:
http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=SeaMonkeyAll&branch=HEAD&branchtype=match&dir=mozilla%2Fmodules%2Flibpref%2Fsrc%2Finit%2F+&file=all.js&filetype=match&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=explicit&mindate=2004-07-07+09%3A00%3A00&maxdate=2004-07-07+12%3A00%3A00&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot
Patch checked in the Mozilla Suite stable branches for versions 1.4 and 1.7:
http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=SeaMonkeyAll&branch=MOZILLA_1_%5B47%5D_BRANCH&branchtype=regexp&dir=mozilla%2Fmodules%2Flibpref%2Fsrc%2Finit%2F+&file=all.js&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=explicit&mindate=2004-07-07+09%3A00%3A00&maxdate=2004-07-07+12%3A00%3A00&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot
Patch checked in to �Aviary� (Firefox and Thunderbird) branch:
http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=AviaryBranchTinderbox&branch=AVIARY_1_0_20040515_BRANCH&branchtype=match&dir=mozilla%2Fmodules%2Flibpref%2Fsrc%2Finit%2F+&file=all.js&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=explicit&mindate=2004-07-07+15%3A00%3A00&maxdate=2004-07-08+16%3A00%3A00&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot
Patch checked in to a new Mozilla branch; this branch represents the
code for the new version, 1.7.1. Developers will then download this code
and compile a new, secure version of the Mozilla Suite:
http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=MOZILLA_1_7_1_MINIBRANCH&branchtype=match&dir=mozilla%2Fmodules%2Flibpref%2Fsrc%2Finit%2F+&file=all.js&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=explicit&mindate=2004-07-07+18%3A00%3A00&maxdate=2004-07-07+19%3A00%3A00&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot
A new branch is created, out of which developers will build new versions
of Firefox and Thunderbird. The patch is checked into this branch.
http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=FIREFOX_0_9_2_MINIBRANCH&branchtype=match&dir=mozilla%2Fmodules%2Flibpref%2Fsrc%2Finit%2F+&file=all.js&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=explicit&mindate=2004-07-07+18%3A00%3A00&maxdate=2004-07-07+21%3A00%3A00&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot

Maybe you can fix your blog post

By: hao2lian

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All the patch did was fix one line in preferences to disable the shell: protocol. If it had been anything difficult, it would’ve taken weeks to find a solution, make a patch, and then test the patch before a review/superreview was granted.

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